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		<title>E-petition to Protect diversity of our town centres</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 23:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Abingdon Drinker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saturday&#8217;s protest in Abingdon against Tesco turning the former Ox pub into a Tesco Direct as reported in the Oxford Mail yesterday and the Abingdon Blog seemed to go well, although unfortunately I was unable to attend as I was still working as a volunteer at the Great British Beer Festival. An e-petition has now [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturday&#8217;s protest in Abingdon against Tesco turning the former Ox pub into a Tesco Direct as reported in the <a href="http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/yourtown/oxford/9182627.Campaigners_bid_to_keep_Tesco_out/">Oxford Mail</a> yesterday and the <a href="http://www.abingdonblog.co.uk/?p=4254">Abingdon Blog</a> seemed to go well, although unfortunately I was unable to attend as I was still working as a volunteer at the Great British Beer Festival.</p>
<p>An <a href="http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/4922">e-petition</a> has now been set up by recently elected Abingdon town councillor Iain Littlejohn asking the government to pass laws allowing local councils to have some power to prevent pubs and similar properties from changing use. Current laws mean the town and district councils are powerless to do anything to prevent a pub being turned into a shop.</p>
<p>Please go to <a href="http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/4922">http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/4922</a> to sign it. I have signed e-petitions before and they do get looked at and replied to by the relevant minister and if more than 100,000 people sign, it will get debated in the house of commons.</p>
<p>The full wording is:</p>
<blockquote><p>Give town councils the power to use planning process to protect the diversity and individual character of town centres. Currently multiple retailers are able to set up in high streets regardless of the impact on independent retailers. Planning authorities are not currently able to prevent this happening and as such many towns centres are becoming clone towns. Similarly many pubs are being converted to convenience stores owned by multiple retailers with little consideration of their long term impact on the community. Specifically we would like to see: 1. Town councils gain right to designate their town centre for diversity protection 2. Impact on the character of the town to become a legitimate reason for rejecting an application in towns designated for diversity protection 3. All retailers wishing to locate in designated towns required to submit planning application 4. Move from public house to other form of retail to be regarded as a change of use
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<p>It may be too late to save The Ox and The Fitzharris, but signing the petition could prevent the same thing happening to other pubs elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>Alcohol becoming socially unacceptable?</title>
		<link>http://abingdonbeer.co.uk/2007/04/29/alcohol-becoming-socially-unacceptable/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Abingdon Drinker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following a news article on BBC web site about a charity lobbying to prevent children drinking at home, I actually got one of my comments published on Page 35 of the Have Your Say section. My comment is that I am worried that now the moral brigade have been succesful making smoking in public places [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following a <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6596515.stm">news article</a> on BBC web site about a charity lobbying to prevent children drinking at home, I actually got one of my comments published on <a href="http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=1&amp;threadID=6224&amp;start=510&amp;tstart=0&amp;edition=1&amp;ttl=20070429141005&amp;#paginator" title="Page with my comment">Page 35</a> of the Have Your Say section.</p>
<p>My comment is that I am worried that now the moral brigade have been succesful making smoking in public places socially unacceptable that alcohol will be their next target.</p>
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<p>We already have the situation where many areas of town centers are alcohol free.  In Oxford most of the city center and some of the parks are already like this.  The purpose of this was to try to get the homeless drunks and beggars to move out of the center to make it nicer for other people, but in reality it just pushed them further out into other parts of town, thus doing nothing about the core problem (alcoholism and homelessness).  Instead it punishes us ordinary people who are not allowed to wander around a pictuoresque town and have a little picnic in a park,  accompanied by a bottle of wine or beer.</p>
<p>The point of the charity lobbying to make it illegal for children to have any alcohol at home is to try and stem the problem of teenage binge drinking.  However, this solution again does not fix the core problem and instead penalises the ordinary person.</p>
<p>When I was young we used to have a glass of diluted wine with our Sunday dinner&#8230; we did not turn into teenage alcoholics.  Instead it made us aware about alcohol at an early age, so that when we were legally allowed to drink at 18, we didn&#8217;t feel the need to rush out and start binge drinking.   Teenagers are still going to go out and obtain alcohol somehow, but outside of the security of their own home and family.</p>
<p>I understand that in America where the legal age is 21, it is worse, with probably most students breaking the law while at college.  When ordinary people end up breaking the law doing things that the majority of people would think morally acceptable, then you lose respect for the law and start breaking other laws, relying on your moral instinct instead of the actual law.</p>
<p>There are many other situations where the remedy for a problem has been to punish ordinary people without helping at all to cure the real problem, examples are:</p>
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<li>Speed Cameras: It is not a careful person driving at 38mph in a 30mph area with good visibility that kills people&#8230; Careful drivers will slow down if they see a potential hazard, or the road conditions require it.   The killers are the boy racers, teenagers who steal cars, tired drivers, drunk drivers and generally people driving without due care and attention.</li>
<li>Metal barriers on footpaths: I think these are there to prevent motorcyclists from going down alleyways and footpaths&#8230; but all it really does is make it difficult for people with bicycles, prams, wheelchairs, luggage.    I am often tempted to carry a hacksaw and chop these things down.  The real solution would be better signposting followed up with random covert monitoring with serious on the spot fines for motorcyclists caught doing it.  After a few well publicised cases of people getting fined and their motorbike confiscated it should remove the problem.</li>
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<p>Anyway&#8230; where was I.   About alcohol becoming socially unacceptable&#8230;  Drink driving attitudes have changed a lot over the last 5 years or so.  Many people now take the attitude of not driving after ANY drink.   This means that many country pubs have either closed down, or turned into restaurants.   In reality, drinking a small amount within a certain timescale, is going to have less affect than driving tired or under stress.</p>
<p>To summarize&#8230; while I appreciate that binge drinking and alcoholism is a bad thing, I do not think that banning children being able to be given a glass of diluted wine at home is going to do anything about the problem, and is likely to make it more likely that teenagers will drink illegally outside the home and become binge drinkers when they reach 18.</p>
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